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	<title>Comments on: Terminal 5 at Heathrow causes baggage hell</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tb_neg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tb_neg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thoroughly enjoyed your take on the T5 situation.  It's quite sad though that businesses and things are they way they are.  They'd likely make more money by having some respect for the 'customers', or as they see them, wallets with legs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thoroughly enjoyed your take on the T5 situation.  It&#8217;s quite sad though that businesses and things are they way they are.  They&#8217;d likely make more money by having some respect for the &#8216;customers&#8217;, or as they see them, wallets with legs.</p>
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		<title>By: John Paltrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paltrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was bound to happen and the evidence was there from many years coming.  Allow me to explain.  

Together with the rest of the UK the language of the UK has changed in say the past 30 years.  Words such as "customers" feature very prominently and are intimately related to promotion propects of anyone in Britain today.  Gone are the days when COMPLEX things were undertaken correctly, because COMPLEXITY requires concepts such as "CLIENT BENEFIT" but our "business" leaders speak about "customer satisfaction".  Today I saw the CEO of British Airways apologizing to "customers" at T5 as if the solution to the problem is related to "customer satisfaction" rather than to client benefit, rather than to having someone in charge of British Airways with high technical education, someone with a PHD for example.

I am convinced that all of this mess has to do with having a bunch of uneducated people at the top of these firms such as British Airways.  Typically you get "managers" and "people persons" and "aggressive MBA types" who all speak about "our customers" and that is how they get promoted.

Delivering a T5 is a complex system which requires that sufficient people at the top of BA and BAA have a very solid technical training to handle the complex.  Life is not simple, it is complex, and so you need extremely numerate people, "German Engineers" to run such an operation, rather than these overpaid and political people sheisters.

I never fly BA.  Once they tried to sell me an upgrade to the flat bed in business class and the cabin crew described the seat as "a product".  "let me show you the product" he said.  So I replied "It is not a product man it is just a seat".

You see this in premium economy.  The seat looks very beautiful but it is unccomfortable as hell.

My view is that I just fly airlines such as Iceland Air or the Far East airlines, societies that reward and place the research engineers in charge of things.

So there is my explanation about why the mess occurred in T5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was bound to happen and the evidence was there from many years coming.  Allow me to explain.  </p>
<p>Together with the rest of the UK the language of the UK has changed in say the past 30 years.  Words such as &#8220;customers&#8221; feature very prominently and are intimately related to promotion propects of anyone in Britain today.  Gone are the days when COMPLEX things were undertaken correctly, because COMPLEXITY requires concepts such as &#8220;CLIENT BENEFIT&#8221; but our &#8220;business&#8221; leaders speak about &#8220;customer satisfaction&#8221;.  Today I saw the CEO of British Airways apologizing to &#8220;customers&#8221; at T5 as if the solution to the problem is related to &#8220;customer satisfaction&#8221; rather than to client benefit, rather than to having someone in charge of British Airways with high technical education, someone with a PHD for example.</p>
<p>I am convinced that all of this mess has to do with having a bunch of uneducated people at the top of these firms such as British Airways.  Typically you get &#8220;managers&#8221; and &#8220;people persons&#8221; and &#8220;aggressive MBA types&#8221; who all speak about &#8220;our customers&#8221; and that is how they get promoted.</p>
<p>Delivering a T5 is a complex system which requires that sufficient people at the top of BA and BAA have a very solid technical training to handle the complex.  Life is not simple, it is complex, and so you need extremely numerate people, &#8220;German Engineers&#8221; to run such an operation, rather than these overpaid and political people sheisters.</p>
<p>I never fly BA.  Once they tried to sell me an upgrade to the flat bed in business class and the cabin crew described the seat as &#8220;a product&#8221;.  &#8220;let me show you the product&#8221; he said.  So I replied &#8220;It is not a product man it is just a seat&#8221;.</p>
<p>You see this in premium economy.  The seat looks very beautiful but it is unccomfortable as hell.</p>
<p>My view is that I just fly airlines such as Iceland Air or the Far East airlines, societies that reward and place the research engineers in charge of things.</p>
<p>So there is my explanation about why the mess occurred in T5</p>
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